Why Toppo Should Absolutely Count as a Main Defeat for Vegeta in the Tournament of Power
Vegeta Finally Got a Defining Win in Dragon Ball Super
One thing that has always frustrated me in the Dragon Ball community is how people constantly downplay Vegeta’s victory over Toppo in the Tournament of Power. Every time conversations come up about Vegeta finally getting a major win against a true high level opponent, somebody always tries to move the goal post and act like Toppo “doesn’t count.” Personally, I think that argument ignores everything the story was trying to do in that moment.
To me, Toppo absolutely should be counted as one of Vegeta’s biggest and most meaningful defeats in Dragon Ball Super. Not only because of Toppo’s strength, but because of what that fight represented for Vegeta as a character. It was one of the rare times where Vegeta stood completely on his own, defeated a legitimate God of Destruction level threat, and did it through his own ideals instead of copying Goku or relying on teamwork.
That moment mattered.
Toppo Was Not Just “Another Opponent”
I think people forget how serious Toppo actually was before Vegeta defeated him. This was not some random side character thrown into the Tournament of Power. Toppo was literally introduced as a candidate for God of Destruction for Universe 11. That alone already places him in an entirely different category from most fighters in the tournament.
The anime and manga both spent time hyping up how dangerous Universe 11 was. Jiren was obviously the monster everyone focused on, but Toppo was portrayed as the second pillar of that universe. When he embraced destruction energy and transformed into his God of Destruction state, the tone of the fight completely changed.
This man was casually using Hakai energy.
That is not small.
We have seen destruction energy terrify characters throughout Dragon Ball Super. Frieza feared it. Goku respected it. Even characters with insane power understood how dangerous it was. So when Vegeta stood there and overpowered somebody wielding that type of divine energy, that should automatically elevate the importance of the victory.
The Fight Was Bigger Than Power Levels
What makes the Vegeta versus Toppo fight special to me is that it was not just about who could punch harder. It was a clash of philosophies.
Toppo abandoned everything he believed in to obtain more power. Justice stopped mattering to him. Pride stopped mattering to him. He fully embraced the mindset that destruction and overwhelming force were all that mattered.
Vegeta did the opposite.
For years Vegeta was the guy who sacrificed morality for strength. He was the one who believed power came before everything else. But during the Tournament of Power, Vegeta rejected that mentality completely. He fought for his family, his promises, his pride, and his identity as a Saiyan without abandoning himself.
That is why the moment hits so hard when Vegeta tells Toppo that there are things more important than power.
Coming from Vegeta, that statement means everything.
Vegeta Earned That Victory the Hard Way
Another reason I count this as a major defeat is because Vegeta genuinely struggled during that fight. It was not easy. It was not handed to him. The man was getting overwhelmed by destruction energy and pushed to his limit physically and mentally.
Then he answered with one of the coldest moments in Dragon Ball Super.
His Final Explosion against Toppo was not just flashy fan service. It was symbolic. Back in the Buu Saga, Vegeta used Final Explosion as a desperate sacrifice fueled by guilt and regret. Against Toppo, he used it as a declaration of growth and conviction.
This time he survived.
That difference matters so much to me because it shows how far Vegeta had come as a warrior and as a person.
The Dragonball Community Sometimes Moves the Goalpost for Vegeta
I have noticed something over the years in Dragon Ball debates. Whenever Vegeta gets a meaningful accomplishment, people suddenly start adding extra conditions to why it “doesn’t count.”
If Vegeta beats a strong opponent, people say the opponent was weakened.
If he dominates somebody, people say the character was irrelevant.
If he loses, people say it proves he can never surpass Goku.
But with Toppo, I genuinely think the series made it clear this was intended to be one of Vegeta’s defining victories.
A God of Destruction candidate powered up with Hakai energy was eliminated by Vegeta through sheer determination, strategy, and evolved strength. That is a massive accomplishment no matter how people try to spin it.
Honestly, if Goku had defeated Toppo in that exact same way, people would probably talk about it every single day as one of the greatest moments in Super.
Why This Fight Meant So Much for Vegeta’s Character Arc
The older I get, the more I appreciate that fight for what it did for Vegeta emotionally.
Vegeta’s entire Dragon Ball journey has been about identity. He started as somebody obsessed with pride in the worst possible way. Over time, he learned how to turn that pride into something meaningful instead of destructive.
Against Toppo, Vegeta basically proved that Saiyan pride did not have to become cruelty or selfishness anymore.
He protected his universe without abandoning his morals.
He became stronger without throwing away his humanity.
He defeated destruction itself without becoming consumed by it.
That is powerful storytelling for a character who once massacred entire planets without remorse.
Final Thoughts
To me, Toppo should absolutely count as a main defeat for Vegeta in the Tournament of Power. Not just because Toppo was strong, but because of everything surrounding that battle.
It was one of the few times in Dragon Ball Super where Vegeta truly felt like the central hero of the moment. He overcame a God of Destruction candidate, protected Universe 7, stayed true to himself, and showcased some of the best character growth in the entire franchise.
That was not a side victory.
That was not filler.
That was not meaningless.
That was Vegeta earning one of the biggest wins of his entire career.
And honestly, I think Dragon Ball fans should give that moment the respect it deserves.






